Aspettando Fermi ......

dj883u2

Non arrivano belle notizie..... :muro:

Secondo il sito SemiAccurate la GTX 480, in media, finirà per essere solo il 5% più veloce della HD 5870 a risoluzioni elevate.

La GTX 470 non è stato testata in queste valutazioni interne, e sarà certamente finire più lento rispetto a HD 5870.

Rsdj

dj883u2 ha scritto:

Non arrivano belle notizie.....
Secondo il sito SemiAccurate la GTX 480, in media, finirà per essere solo il 5% più veloce della HD 5870 a risoluzioni elevate.

La GTX 470 non è stato testata in queste valutazioni interne, e sarà certamente finire più lento rispetto a HD 5870.

Infatti stavo leggendo, e oltretutto dice che la temperatura in idle è di 70°C nonostante la ventola giri al 70%!! :AAAAH:

dj883u2

Quello che mi lascia veramente sconcertato è questo.....:AAAAH:

If you give the GTX480 to honest journalists, they will likely say that the two cards, the GTX480 and the HD5870, show equivalent performance, so we hear Nvidia is doing its best to keep the GTX480 out of the hands of the honest. This means that only journalists who are known to follow the "reviewer's guide" closely, are willing to downplay the negatives, and will hit the important bullet points provided by Nvidia PR will be the ones most likely to gain early access to these cards. If this sounds unethical to you, it is, and it's not the first time. This is exactly what Nvidia did to cut Anand, Kyle and several others out of the GTS250 at launch. That worked out so well the last time that Nvidia will probably try it again. Expect fireworks when some people realize that they have been cut out for telling the truth.

....pazzesco...veramente pazzesco.... :muro:

Rsdj

Hai ragione!! Per non parlare di quest'altro paragrafo:

GTX480 is too hot, too big, too slow, and lacks anything that would recommend it over a HD5870, much less the vastly faster HD5970. Nvidia is said to be producing only 5,000 to 8,000 of these cards, and it will lose money on each one. The architecture is wrong, and that is unfixable. The physical design is broken, and that is not fixable in any time frame that matters. When you don't have anything to show, spin. Nvidia is spinning faster than it ever has before.

:muro: :muro:

dj883u2

Queste le conclusioni.....

The end result is that the GTX480 is simply not fast enough to deliver a resounding win in anything but the most contrived benchmark scenarios. It is well within range of a mildly upclocked HD5870, which is something that ATI can do pretty much on a whim. The GTX480 can barely beat the second fastest ATI card, and it doesn't have a chance at the top.

GTX480 is too hot, too big, too slow, and lacks anything that would recommend it over a HD5870, much less the vastly faster HD5970. Nvidia is said to be producing only 5,000 to 8,000 of these cards, and it will lose money on each one. The architecture is wrong, and that is unfixable. The physical design is broken, and that is not fixable in any time frame that matters. When you don't have anything to show, spin. Nvidia is spinning faster than it ever has before.

......produranno 5.000/8.000 schede e ci perderanno pure soldi..... :muro: :muro:

Rsdj

dj883u2 ha scritto:

Queste le conclusioni.....
The end result is that the GTX480 is simply not fast enough to deliver a resounding win in anything but the most contrived benchmark scenarios. It is well within range of a mildly upclocked HD5870, which is something that ATI can do pretty much on a whim. The GTX480 can barely beat the second fastest ATI card, and it doesn't have a chance at the top.

GTX480 is too hot, too big, too slow, and lacks anything that would recommend it over a HD5870, much less the vastly faster HD5970. Nvidia is said to be producing only 5,000 to 8,000 of these cards, and it will lose money on each one. The architecture is wrong, and that is unfixable. The physical design is broken, and that is not fixable in any time frame that matters. When you don't have anything to show, spin. Nvidia is spinning faster than it ever has before.

......produranno 5.000/8.000 schede e ci perderanno pure soldi.....:muro:

Per la miseria!! E c'è pure chi sperava in una dual-gpu... :azz:

dj883u2

Chiaramente sono tutte notizie da prendere con le dovute cautele.....

Rsdj

Ovvio, però fin'ora SemiAccurate non si è mai sbagliata... inoltre non ha mai pubblicato frottole. Per me è una delle redazioni più attendibili.

dj883u2

SemiAccurate gets some GTX480 scores - SemiAccurate Forums

I commeni sul forum.

gianni1879

SabrePC.com - XFX Geforce GTX 480 GDDR5 2GB PCI-Express 2.0 - Retail

preciso però che i 2GB di vram sono fuori le specifiche con un bus di 384bit

così come il prezzo

gianni1879

[Rumour] Geforce GTX 480 barely faster than Radeon 5870 | IT SHOW 2010 | VR-Zone | Gadgets | PC Enthusiasts

gianni1879

gianni1879 ha scritto:

SabrePC.com - XFX Geforce GTX 480 GDDR5 2GB PCI-Express 2.0 - Retail
preciso però che i 2GB di vram sono fuori le specifiche con un bus di 384bit

così come il prezzo

nVidia GeForce GTX 480 shows up for preorder but the specs look fishy... - Bright Side Of News*

gianni1879

Achille GForce ha scritto:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 e GTX 470, cominciano i pre-ordini - Hardware Upgrade - Il sito italiano sulla tecnologia - www.hwupgrade.it
Notizia più completa in italiano.

499$ & 679$ rispettivamente per GTX 470 & 480 in pre-order quindi gonfiati.

da quello che si vede sembrerebbe che alla fine io ci abbia azzeccato.

Anche la 5870 quando fu messa in pre order dalla sapphire era a 400$, penso perciò sempre di più che la 470 starà sui 400€ e 500€ per la 480, mi sembrano più che ragionevoli se Nvidia battesse la 5870 anche con la GTX 470, se consideriamo che ATI vende la 5870 a 350-370€, una vga superiore come la GTX 470 che sia di poco o di più almeno a 400€ o poco più ci stà

L'unica differenza è che non abbasseranno i prezzi.

veramente le ultime performance indicano gtx470 sotto la hd5870 e la gtx480 sopra.

Per cui una, ammesso sia vero, gtx470 a 499€ è fuori mercato. E cmq si sa che i prezzi preorder sono gonfiati

Le085

difficile fare i conti ora...specialmente in euro, tra l'altro in picchiata nei confronti del dollaro...

finché non le vedi in qualche shop italiano sarà difficile da valutare con esattezza

Severnaya

se i prezzi fossero confermati anche all'uscita nvidia farebbe prima a nn produrle neanche quelle schede : |

delly

dj883u2 ha scritto:

Non arrivano belle notizie.....
Secondo il sito SemiAccurate la GTX 480, in media, finirà per essere solo il 5% più veloce della HD 5870 a risoluzioni elevate.

La GTX 470 non è stato testata in queste valutazioni interne, e sarà certamente finire più lento rispetto a HD 5870.

stavo proprio leggendo l'articolo...mamma mia...:AAAAH:

con quelle prestazioni e quel consumo non so chi la potrebbe preferire alla raddy...specie visto che sicuramente costerà pure di più...

delly

Severnaya ha scritto:

se i prezzi fossero confermati anche all'uscita nvidia farebbe prima a nn produrle neanche quelle schede : |

decisamente quotabile quanto dici...:(

gianni1879

ragazzi sono prezzi preorder, quindi il massimo della speculazione possibile, nemmeno da prendere in considerazione, si riportano solo per dovere di cronaca, non per altro.

delly

gianni1879 ha scritto:

ragazzi sono prezzi preorder, quindi il massimo della speculazione possibile, nemmeno da prendere in considerazione, si riportano solo per dovere di cronaca, non per altro.

ovvio...speriamo non siano così quelli finali...ma visti i costi di produzione della scheda e tutto mi sa che non saranno molto più bassi...felice di sbagliarmi...

gianni1879

GTX 470 Price and PSU Requirement | ShaneBaxtor.com

GTX 470 Price and PSU Requirement

It’s a busy day, the rumour mill is going crazy with information regarding the GTX 400 series and what’s going to be announced. While for the most part it seems that NVIDIA are going to make mention of a release date early Monday morning in the US we’ve heard even more information.

This time on the GTX 470; Price? It looks like the official launch price on this model will be $299 USD. To put this into perspective this is the same price as the HD 5850. Which means from a price stand point it’s going to compete directly against that model, no doubt NVIDIA will be aiming the performance of the model more around the HD 5870 area though.

When it comes to power it looks like NV are going to be suggesting a 550 Watt minimum unit to run the model. Compared to the HD 5850 which ATI say requires a minimum of 500 Watt this is a slight bump.

Saying that though most people these days looking at a card like this should be carrying a decent quality 600+ Watt power supply. The requirement though while not being much of a worry does put a concern on just how much power the model will use, in a time where it’s become cool to be green this could be an issue for some.

GTX 400 Series; 1 year warranty an issue | ShaneBaxtor.com

So I figure that we’re on the edge of an announcement on launch date for the GTX 400 series, combine the Facebook announcement made by NVIDIA the other day along with the whispers of a more solid mid to late March launch date on the model and it’s pretty clear that we’re going to hear some concrete information on this in the next 12 hours.

Now if the card is only a month away from being released that means it’s time to chase up samples. To be honest chasing samples isn’t something I do these days, I’m in constant conversation with my contacts, and when I say constant I mean I speak to most people I deal with daily. This means I’m always in the loop when it comes to information, it also helps me bring you exclusive information as well.

Since it’s been a while since we’ve really got anything from NV though it was time to talk to some of the NV only partners to see what’s going on. Working for a Tier 1 website has its benefits, and working for one for 7 years is even better. All I need to do is drop the TweakTown name and my own and these companies know who they’re dealing with.

So when a company says we can’t send a sample due to shortage they know that this isn’t going to cut it as an excuse. ATI partners like Sapphire and HIS have no issue sending cards when on shortage. Well the issue seems that you combine the fact that the model in itself is going to be a shortage and that partners offer a two year warranty instead of the one NV offer them and you quickly see the problem.

With the model no doubt being expensive partners don’t want to order too many; if a product dies 1 year after warranty and the company offers 2 it comes directly out of their pocket. Instead companies want to wait for their own design of the model before going too hard with the model.

This 1 year warranty causes two problems for you. Firstly companies don’t want to have too many because if they get a heap back after the first year it costs them which in turn creates a shortage. More importantly though the price goes up on the model so they can cover themselves for cards that die after that one year time frame.