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[ENG]AMD A10-5800K with GIGABYTE F2A85X-UP4 OC Guide

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    #1

    A5800K01.jpg

    AMD launched Llano APU with FM1 socket in July 2011.

    Later on, AMD launched Socket FM2 in Oct 2012.

    FM2 and FM1 CPU sockets are not compatible. Please be aware of it before upgrade.

    In the past, the advantage of AMD platform was compatible sockets. It’s too fast for this transition.

    FM2 code is Trinity APU. It combines AMD AM3+ Bulldozer structure.

    The price is lower to make APU platform parity.

    Chipset can use A75 and A55, but supports FM2 Socket.

    AMD also launched a new chipset for Trinity APU, more high end A85X.

    CPU is current most high end Trinity APU, A10-5800K.

    32nm, 4-Cores, 3.8GHz, Turbo Core to 4.2GHz

    Max TDP is 100W and built-in GPU is AMD Radeon HD 7660D

    FM1 and FM2 CPU are 32nm which is no improvement in manufacturing.

    A5800K02.jpg

    FM2 socket is 904Pin and FM1 is 905Pin.

    There is one pin less as you can see in pic.

    A5800K03.jpg

    MB is GIGABYTE most high end for FM2 Socket, F2A85X-UP4

    The price is just a little bit higher than A10-5800K. Building high end FM2 platform is not too costive.

    It’s black and gray as main design of GIGABYTE high end MB.

    A5800K04.jpg

    It’s own durable design. Blink of an eye, it’s 5th generation.

    2oz PCB and 60A Ferrite core choke and latest IR3550 PowIRstage chip.

    In my previous review, I have shared the good temperature performance of IR3550 PowIRstage.

    A5800K05.jpg

    Lower-Left Corner

    3X PCI-E X16, they are X16, X8 and X4.

    Supporting AMD Dual Graphics and MD CrossFire

    3 X PCI-E X1

    1 X PCI

    Realtek ALC892 audio supports 7.1 channels and High Definition Audio

    Realtek RTL8111F LAN chip and TPM slot

    A5800K06.jpg

    Lower-Right Corner

    7 X Black SATA provided by A85X, supporting SATA3

    It Supports RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, RAID 10 and JBOD.

    Right side is debug LED and dual 64 Mbit Flash BIOS

    A5800K07.jpg

    Upper-Right Corner

    4 X DIMM DDR3 support 1066/1333/1600/1866. Max DDR3 capacity is 64GB.

    It supports AMD Memory Profile / Extreme Memory Profile.

    Next is 24-PIN power connector and front USB 3.0 connectors.

    A5800K08.jpg

    Upper-Left Corner

    F2A85X-UP4 CPU left side is iron-gray sink. It’s 8-phase digital PWM.

    Upper-left is 8Pin power connector. FM2 socket supports AMD A and Athlon series CPU

    Red button is power, blue is Reset and black is Clear CMOS.

    A5800K09.jpg

    IO

    1 X PS2 KB/Mouse

    1 X D-Sub / DVI-D / HDMI / DisplayPort

    4 X USB 3.0/2.0(Blue)

    2 X USB 2.0(Black)

    1 X S/PDIF optical outpur

    1 X eSATA 6Gb/s Port

    1 X RJ-45 LAN

    6 X audio jacks

    A5800K10.jpg

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    • W Non in linea
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      #2

      A5800K01.jpg

      AMD launched Llano APU with FM1 socket in July 2011.

      Later on, AMD launched Socket FM2 in Oct 2012.

      FM2 and FM1 CPU sockets are not compatible. Please be aware of it before upgrade.

      In the past, the advantage of AMD platform was compatible sockets. It’s too fast for this transition.

      FM2 code is Trinity APU. It combines AMD AM3+ Bulldozer structure.

      The price is lower to make APU platform parity.

      Chipset can use A75 and A55, but supports FM2 Socket.

      AMD also launched a new chipset for Trinity APU, more high end A85X.

      CPU is current most high end Trinity APU, A10-5800K.

      32nm, 4-Cores, 3.8GHz, Turbo Core to 4.2GHz

      Max TDP is 100W and built-in GPU is AMD Radeon HD 7660D

      FM1 and FM2 CPU are 32nm which is no improvement in manufacturing.

      A5800K02.jpg

      FM2 socket is 904Pin and FM1 is 905Pin.

      There is one pin less as you can see in pic.

      A5800K03.jpg

      MB is GIGABYTE most high end for FM2 Socket, F2A85X-UP4

      The price is just a little bit higher than A10-5800K. Building high end FM2 platform is not too costive.

      It’s black and gray as main design of GIGABYTE high end MB.

      A5800K04.jpg

      It’s own durable design. Blink of an eye, it’s 5th generation.

      2oz PCB and 60A Ferrite core choke and latest IR3550 PowIRstage chip.

      In my previous review, I have shared the good temperature performance of IR3550 PowIRstage.

      A5800K05.jpg

      Lower-Left Corner

      3X PCI-E X16, they are X16, X8 and X4.

      Supporting AMD Dual Graphics and MD CrossFire

      3 X PCI-E X1

      1 X PCI

      Realtek ALC892 audio supports 7.1 channels and High Definition Audio

      Realtek RTL8111F LAN chip and TPM slot

      A5800K06.jpg

      Lower-Right Corner

      7 X Black SATA provided by A85X, supporting SATA3

      It Supports RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, RAID 10 and JBOD.

      Right side is debug LED and dual 64 Mbit Flash BIOS

      A5800K07.jpg

      Upper-Right Corner

      4 X DIMM DDR3 support 1066/1333/1600/1866. Max DDR3 capacity is 64GB.

      It supports AMD Memory Profile / Extreme Memory Profile.

      Next is 24-PIN power connector and front USB 3.0 connectors.

      A5800K08.jpg

      Upper-Left Corner

      F2A85X-UP4 CPU left side is iron-gray sink. It’s 8-phase digital PWM.

      Upper-left is 8Pin power connector. FM2 socket supports AMD A and Athlon series CPU

      Red button is power, blue is Reset and black is Clear CMOS.

      A5800K09.jpg

      IO

      1 X PS2 KB/Mouse

      1 X D-Sub / DVI-D / HDMI / DisplayPort

      4 X USB 3.0/2.0(Blue)

      2 X USB 2.0(Black)

      1 X S/PDIF optical outpur

      1 X eSATA 6Gb/s Port

      1 X RJ-45 LAN

      6 X audio jacks

      A5800K10.jpg

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        #3

        UEFI Screen

        CPU Clock Ratio adjusts from 38 to 45. It means OC 5800K to 4.5GHz.

        DDR3 enables Extreme Memory Profile to run at 2133.

        A5800KB01.jpg

        DRAM Advanced Parameters, manually setup as CL10 11-9-32

        A5800KB02.jpg

        Voltage Page

        CPU Vcore 0.80000~2.30000V

        DRAM Voltage 1.100~2.620V

        CPU set as 1.46250V and DRAM set as 1.600V

        A5800KB03.jpg

        PC Health Status

        As OC setup above, the CPU temperature is over 41 degree C. It’s more accurate in UEFI temperature info.

        As CPU temperature, I will have further test later.

        A5800KB04.jpg

        Test Configuration

        CPU: AMD A10-5800K

        MB: GIGABYTE F2A85X-UP4

        DRAM: CORSAIR DOMINATOR-GT DDR3 1866 8GX2

        VGA: AMD Radeon HD 7660D

        HDD: CORSAIR Force GS 240GB

        POWER: XIGMATEK Tauro 400W Bronze

        Cooler: XIGMATEK HDT-S1283

        OS: Windows8 64bit

        A5800K11.jpg

        Performance Test

        CPU 99.82 X 45 => 4491.76MHz

        DDR3 2129.4 CL10 11-9-32

        Hyper PI 32M X 4 => 24m 19.084s

        CPUMARK 99 => 525

        A5800KOPI.png

        Nuclearus Multi Core => 13711

        Fritz Chess Benchmark => 15.77/7568

        A5800KONM.png

        CrystalMark 2004R3 => 223483

        A5800KOCM.png

        CINEBENCH R11.5

        CPU => 3.64 pts

        CPU(Single Core) => 1.15 pts

        A5800KOCB.png

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          FRYRENDER

          Running Time => 10m 39s

          x264 FHD Benchmark => 13

          A5800KOFRY.png

          PCMARK7 => 3644

          A5800KOPC7.png

          Windows8 Experience Index - CPU 7.4

          A5800KOWIND8.png

          FM2 5800K clock after OC is much higher than FM1 3850.

          As 5800K using dual module quad core structure, the clock and OC ability are improved a lot.

          If we just look at performance in CINEBENCH, the CPU single and multiple threads numbers are as below.

          FM2 5800K OC 4492MHz and i3-3220 default 3293MHz.

          i3-3220 Single Core CPU is 26.2% higher, and 5800K multi-CPU is 14.5% higher.

          FM2 5800K OC 4492MHz and FM1 3850 OC 3540MHz

          3850 Single Core CPU is 14.8% higher and 5800K multi-CPU is 7.4% more.

          As multi-tasking Fritz Chess Benchmark, these 3 CPUs performance is similar.

          It’s up to your requirement to decide which one is more suitable for you.

          2134.8 CL10 11-9-32

          ADIA64 Memory Read - 12368 MB/s

          Sandra Memory Bandwidth - 15474 MB/s

          MaXXMEM Memory-Copy - 11136 MB/s

          A5800KOMEM2133.png

          FM2 default clock can pull to 2133 which is higher than FM1 1866.

          In ADIA64 Memory Read, the bandwidth increases 20%.

          However, in Sandra and MaXXMEM, it’s lower than FM1.

          As new structure characteristic and bandwidth performance, you can decide by high clock or bandwidth.

          3D Performance Test

          Built-in AMD Radeon HD 7660D

          3DMark Vantage => P6155

          A5800KO3DVAN.png

          StreetFighter IV Benchmark

          1920 X 1080 => 71.70 FPS

          A5800KO3DSTF4.jpg

          FINAL FANTASY XIV

          1920 X 1080 => 1245

          A5800KO3DFF14.jpg

          Unigine Heaven Benchmark

          1280 X 720 => 34.8 FPS

          A5800KO3DHB3.jpg

          3DMark Vantage is 20% higher than previous Radeon HD 6550D with 3850.

          StreetFighter IV Benchmark and FINAL FANTASY XIV performance is similar.

          However, Unigine Heaven Benchmark test DX11, it’s almost double the 3D performance.

          5800K built-in AMD current most high end Radeon HD 7660D, the 3D performance is excellent.

          This is the advantage of AMD APU platform. It’s designed for pull high built-in 3D performance for entry 3D demand users.

          SATA3 Test

          SSD is CORSAIR Force GS 240GB

          AS SSD Benchmark - 719

          Seq Read - 524.01 MB/s Write - 270.50 MB/s

          4K - 64Thrd Read - 214.89 MB/s Write - 194.63 MB/s

          A5800KOSSD1.png

          ATTO DISK Benchmark over 512KB test can reach 540.5 Mb/s read and 517.5 MB/s write.

          SSD Benchmark TOTAL => 4020.13

          A5800KOSSD2.png

          Trinity APU latest A85X chipset supports 8 native SATA3 ports.

          For users who own many HDD o SSD, the transfer rate is a key factor.

          In the past, AMD SATA transfer rate is not as good as Intel. However, it improves step by step.

          Form the test above, you can see overall read/write performance and 4K - 64Thrd are both in good level.

          However, for 4K read/write performance is only 50~60% of Intel chipset. It must improve in the future.

          Also as SSD Raid 0 Trim technology and performance, I hope AMD new chipset can catch up as well.

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            Temperature(Room is 22?C)

            Enter to OS Desktop - 40

            A5800KOT1.png

            CPU Full Speed - 55

            LinX 0.6.4

            A5800KOT2.png

            Disabling AMD C&Q power saving feature do testing. 32nm APU and FX CPU are low temperature in most software.

            Sometimes, even lower than room temperature, like 8~16. As CPU is not thermoelectric Cooling, it should be higher than room after power on.

            It’s impossible numbers, so just ignore the AIDA.

            As EasyTune6, CPU temperature is 55 as full speed which is quite good with mid end cooler.

            As 32nm, the temperature performance is good. I recommend you to use MB bundle software or UEFI BIOS to check the accurate temperature.

            Power Consumption

            Enter to OS Desktop - 44W

            A5800KWIDLE.jpg

            CPU Full Speed - 165W

            LinX 0.6.4

            A5800KWLINX.jpg

            CPU and GPU both Full Speed - 183W

            OCCT Power Supply Test

            A5800KWOCCT.jpg

            Even disable AMD C&Q power saving technology, it’s only 44W as OC to 4.5GHz.

            CPU full speed is 165W which still too high. GPU full speed only increase 18W is very good.

            Power consumption is weakness for AMD. Finally, it moves to 32nm, but the power consumption doesn’t decrease efficiently.

            GIGABYTE F2A85X-UP4

            Pros

            1. Black PCB with good quality. Trinity APU structure makes high end MB parity.

            2. Using IR3550 PowlRstage PWM to lower MOSFET tmeperature

            3. 7 SATA3 and 1 eSATA3 for better expandability

            4. IO has 4 different video output ports and supports 4 USB 3.0 devices

            5. Build in debug LED and 3 buttons for bare system users

            Cons

            1. CPU full speed power consumption is too high

            2. Better to have 2 PCI slots

            A5800K12.jpg

            Performance ?????????? 81/100

            Components ?????????? 86/100

            Specifications ?????????? 88/100

            Appearance ?????????? 83/100

            C/P Value ?????????? 82/100

            As the test above, you can see the difference between FM2 Trinity APU and FM1 Llano APU.

            Trinity APU advantage is CPU clock can pull high and DDR3 clock is one level higher as well.

            Temperature and power consumption are similar as they are both 32nm.

            5800K built-in 3D performance improves a lot, especially in DX11 supported games.

            A5800K13.jpg

            Latest Trinity APU still focus in mid to low end market to provide more parity options.

            New chipset specs are better than A75 and supporting more SATA3.

            If you own FM1 already, you don’t really need to upgrade to FM2.

            If you are planning to buy a new entry PC and require 3D performance more than CPU, Trinity APU can be a good choice for you :)

            This article is also post in my blog - WIND3C, Any comments are welcome.

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