<![CDATA[PC uso domestico/ufficio 300 euro]]>Ragazzi, per un pc tuttofare, dal budget di 300 euro e pochissimo più, che ne dite di questa configurazione? Il gioco non tanto, è quasi escluso, perché è un computer principalmente da ufficio, ma non è escluso un po di editing video, o forse photoshop.

Aerocool v3x

corsair 450w (o be-quiet 350w)

masterizzatore

hard disk 500gb seagate

8gb di ram (o 4) 1866mhz

a6 7400k

asrock fm2a55 pro +

Cosa ne dite? è per una persona adulta, che vorrebbe un pc tuttofare..potrebbero esserci alternative?

]]>https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//topic/37936/pc-uso-domestico-ufficio-300-euroRSS for NodeThu, 16 Apr 2026 14:04:47 GMTWed, 15 Apr 2015 13:29:26 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to PC uso domestico/ufficio 300 euro on Sun, 19 Apr 2015 12:24:46 GMT]]>

Marmodder ha scritto:

Mi piace molto la configurazione AMD, ma la possibilità di usare una scheda video discreta non c'è?

Novità?

]]>https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//post/533897https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//post/533897Sun, 19 Apr 2015 12:24:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PC uso domestico/ufficio 300 euro on Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:27:28 GMT]]>Certo...

prendi una mobo liscia e la prendi a parte

]]>https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//post/533896https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//post/533896Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:27:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PC uso domestico/ufficio 300 euro on Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:28:14 GMT]]>

Tex ha scritto:

ti posto una lista, dammi il tempo

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Mi piace molto la configurazione AMD, ma la possibilità di usare una scheda video discreta non c'è?

]]>https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//post/533895https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//post/533895Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:28:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PC uso domestico/ufficio 300 euro on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 17:27:36 GMT]]>ti posto una lista, dammi il tempo

intel:

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]]>https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//post/533894https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//post/533894Wed, 15 Apr 2015 17:27:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PC uso domestico/ufficio 300 euro on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:00:19 GMT]]>

Tex ha scritto:

Io direi di lasciare perdere le apu se devi fare lavori di ufficio.

piuttosto un i3 più scarno o un fx 4xxx

Dici? quali potrebbero essere le alternative? La persona a cui sto assemblando il pc vorrebbe un pc "generale", nel senso che vorrebbe qualcosa di carino utilizzabile con tutto, per questo le APU mi sono sembrate la scelta adatta..

]]>https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//post/533893https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//post/533893Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:00:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PC uso domestico/ufficio 300 euro on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:19:20 GMT]]>Io direi di lasciare perdere le apu se devi fare lavori di ufficio.

piuttosto un i3 più scarno o un fx 4xxx

]]>https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//post/533892https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//post/533892Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:19:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PC uso domestico/ufficio 300 euro on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 13:29:26 GMT]]>Ragazzi, per un pc tuttofare, dal budget di 300 euro e pochissimo più, che ne dite di questa configurazione? Il gioco non tanto, è quasi escluso, perché è un computer principalmente da ufficio, ma non è escluso un po di editing video, o forse photoshop.

Aerocool v3x

corsair 450w (o be-quiet 350w)

masterizzatore

hard disk 500gb seagate

8gb di ram (o 4) 1866mhz

a6 7400k

asrock fm2a55 pro +

Cosa ne dite? è per una persona adulta, che vorrebbe un pc tuttofare..potrebbero esserci alternative?

]]>https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//post/533891https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum//post/533891Wed, 15 Apr 2015 13:29:26 GMT